1. GFNCI LLC appears to be a Ken Griffin (Citadel) vehicle.
2. a16z appears in many guises. For instance CNK Fund IV is an a16z fund.
3. Manhattan Venture Partners have part ownership of shady fintech like Klarna and Kraken, the 2nd biggest crypto exchange in the USA that is currently losing to the SEC on various securities fraud related charges
4. Mirae Asset Innovation might be a Korean crypto related fund (under the larger Mirae umbrella)
5. Pershing Square is Bill Ackman's fund. Ackman just tried to use his newfound Twitter clout to raise $25 billion (he failed).
6. IMG US appears to be a sports fund. Could not confirm but suspect ties to sports betting.
7. Olivier Janssens is a bitcoin bro and large Mt. Gox victim.
8. Bandera fund is troubled real estate tycoon Alan Stalcup.
9. Ark Venture is most likely "Wacky" Cathie Wood, she of "bitcoin will hit $3.8 million soon" prediction fame
10. Bamco may be a fintech fund under the Baron umbrella
11. Go Mav is probably agri/food billionaire Ronald Burkle.
12. Adrem X/Y are crypto funds featuring a lot of the biggest crypto players including a16z (again), Ribbit, Tim Draper.
13. Sean Combs is P. Diddy
On the whole it's a lot of vaporware merchants who can make far more money pump and dumping meme stocks and crypto than they could ever make actually developing products coupled with the Saudis etc.
Some of the Chinese names I could not find anything about
Manhattan Venture Partners - most definitely not a crypto fund (they’re my client)
Mirae - most definitely not a “crypto fund” (also my client); they are a very large asset management firm, mostly of the traditional variety.
Pershing Square IPO is back on the block (so much for “failure”)
ARK is Cathie Wood - congrats on nailing that one.
Baron is not a “fintech” fund lolol. Please Google Baron Capital for Christ’s sake.
Burkle’s investment firm is called Yucaipa Cos. That, and A-grade Investments (along with Ashton Kutcher).
Finally … “While the list doesn’t include ownership amounts….”
Yes, it doesn’t, and this is of course the most important part, without which this entire piece is speculative sensationalism. I own 50 shares of Tesla. If I want the new Model S to say “FVCK KAMALA HARRIS” on the dashboards, do I have the sway?
You’re not unearthing wrongdoing for the good of the public. You hate Elon and you’re jealous. Like all small men.
i copy/pasted this from some tweets so there's some nuance missing, but that said:
- Manhattan Venture Partners def. invests in both fintech (including shady operations like Klarna) and crypto companies (like Kraken, which is both the 2nd biggest american crypto exchange and also most likely a money laundry)
- Mirae does crypto stuff; this is the Mirae Asset Innovation fund. I had at least some reason to think it was crypto related; i could be wrong.
- there was some reason to link Baron and Bamco. I'm not going to look it up again; if i'm wrong i'm wrong. that's why i used the word "seem"
- re: Burkle the OSINT is out there. i'm not doing the homework for you.
as for the rest i'll just let your own words explain to future readers what kind of big man you think you are (and also point out your clients are the kind of people who invest in companies like Kraken who are currently losing badly to the SEC on all kinds of securities charges. speaks volumes about you and your clients).
The fact that you’re calling Klarna a “shady operation” is enough to discredit you. Then there’s MVP as a “crypto/fintech fund” (just because investments are made IN CRYPTO-RELATED COMPANIES (like Kraken, which by the way, has many, many Tier-1 VCs on the cap table) doesn’t make it a “crypto fund.” Same for fintech investments. You’re trying to make something fit that does not fit, and you’re making a fool of yourself in the process.
Mirae does crypto “stuff” like JPMorgan or Fidelity or GS or CS or MS does crypto “stuff.”
Baron is a massive backer of all of Elon’s companies. You’d have known this with even a cursory google search.
The last thing I’ll say, again, is that ownership % are what matter. Your dislike for your own self, channeled into an ostensible dislike for Elon Musk, is obvious, as it always is.
klarna is sub-prime predatory "buy now pay later" loans. if you want to die on that hill, well having seen yr profile pic let's say i'm not surprised.
i've dealt with "tier-1 vcs" personally and in fact owe my financial good fortune to them. they were universally horrible people.
and finally i actually have far more nuanced opinions about elon than a lot of people - i am not an "elon truther" as it were - but good on you for assuming a bunch of stuff you have no data about.
And as for Klarna - tell me, which is more “predatory”:
Providing cash strapped low-mid income consumers with rock bottom interest financing for purchases that would otherwise be 30% APR on a credit card?
Or inventing digital lottery tickets out of thin air, getting rich from selling the “Limited Supply of Digital Nothing” to unsophisticated investors who fall for “decentralization is the future” garbage, and then walking away when it crashes to zero and they lose their shirts?
Crypto is trash. Digital currency already exists, it’s called PayPal. The fact that so many losers got rich convincing people there’s a difference, is the scam of the century.
crypto is absolutely worse in every way which is why i created this account to warn the world about it. maybe you missed that?
Though w/r/t your clients I will just note that they invested in Klarna AND Kraken AKA "the new FTX" (at least insofar as all the Tether that used to flow through FTX to get access to the US banking system it now flows through Kraken. i tend to assume kraken is probably not just outright embezzling customer money (but then again this is a crypto company so odds are never 0%). so they're making sure they have their fingers in all the most predatory parts of finance. seem like a bunch of stand up fellas.
My profile pic hahaha? It’s a picture of Hong Kong. Wtf does that matter? Dude you’re a joke - you googled around thinking you were hot shit, and came up with air balls. And you didn’t deal with Tier 1 VCs. Who? I know many of them. Which firms? Which GPs at the firms?
Which Tier 1 VC invested in whatever crypto Ponzi scheme you claimed would change the world? Let’s hear it.
this account kind of became a thing after I wrote an essay titled "Cryptocurrency Is A Hideous Monstrosity Made Out Of Computers And Greed That Must Be Destroyed Before It Devours The World, Part I" so i'm not sure why you think i'm pro-crypto. i've never owned nor will i ever own any crypto. as someone with a mathematical / compsci background who worked in the tech and finance industry for a decent amount of time i understand every level of the crypto fraud in a way most people do not.
Fascinating read. Glad you and others are on this.
At some point all of this work independent journalists are doing needs to be translated into policies that protect people from dangerous disinfo and real life violence.
Are there people working on moving the hearts and minds of lawmakers?
yes. the crypto lobby (which includes a lot of the people who own twitter now) is the single biggest source of corporate funding for the 2024 election (easily verified in any major news outlet) and they are determined to promote as much disinfo as they can possibly pump into the overton window.
This guy is a serious national security threat. We should seize all assets, nationalizing SpaceX and a starlink, liquidate the rest. Vanishing him to some island north of bath and island on the beach with the sandwich. Ciao Felicia
So, my question about Musk and other people who control so much capital is always the same. He can't live forever. Cryogenically frozen does not count. When he's dead, who gets the space ship and who gets the satellite and who gets the billions of dollars laying around in this or that half functioning project or company or plant that didn't make it? His 10 wives? His 20 kids? Because he has so much, his death would impact us all, so why don't the people have claim to the assets? Nobody likes the word nationalize, but they will when all the food grown here is shipped to other countries because our capitalist brothers sold every inch of farmland to "investors" who don't know how to grow food. I worked for the top, largest, most revered patent law firm in the country with a 25 yr history of never laying anyone off, and they got high on being the IT firm for tech and expanded too quickly at the urging of more junior partners, and then the 'smart' people decided the old school trio of partners weren't making them enough money and they took over and literally blew the firm to bits in 3 yrs and put 1000+ people out of work. Smart people still need boundaries or they become crazy people and waste resources.
His companies run on government contracts, substides, rebates, federal business tax which he pays very little to none. Without them Space X, Tesla, & some of the ISP would cease to function due to lack of funding particularly if he is the only person listed as owner & guarantor of the contracts.
Anyone who lived through the Vietnam War and Civil Rights are not all racists. What you’re describing for are low information individuals in the same age range.
Hating an individual Jew or Muslim is quite possible without hating “Jews and Muslims” It’s the behavior of those individuals that gets them on the hate list ..
Thank you! The journalistic emphasis on politicians rather than the assholes that own them can allow for those assholes to remain hidden and untouched by their crimes, whether legal or not.
Musk seems more in bed with Saudi Arabia than he is with American money. The problem is that the Saudis and others of that part of the world who have always been opposed to the 'West' are allowed to buy everything up. Until there are guardrails put up, they're gonna keep advancing and financially invading America.
Musk and his techno-fascist crew are both vile and incompetent on a par with Nixon's White House Plumbers. Musk has repeatedly rendered the things he was supposedly 'fixing' inoperable, then scrambled to repair his own damage. He didn't know how Twitter worked and broke it just like he doesn't know how the government works and is breaking it. FSD is Fake Self Driving. Teslas are death traps and he is suing the victims in China and winning because he controls the Tesla data and has the backing of the Chinese Communist Party. He is not an engineer. He is another incompetent con man failing upwards on the public dime. As such he fits perfectly into the Trump kleptocracy.
If Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, (not to mention a variety of international cryptocurrency companies,) are backing musk, and musk is using Twitter/X for pro-trump political propaganda, then isn’t this just another example of foreign interference in US elections?
Thank you for your work on this. I can’t wait for your book. Quick question though. If musk is knowingly allowing people’s tweets and personal information so that they can be tortured, isn’t he complicit in the eyes of the law?
I say we send the Muskox to Saudi Arabia. It’s that or send him back to South Africa. Why not freeze his assets and drop all contracts? His cars explode, his space ships blow up, and his “X” is full of Yachzi’s ! We must remain civilized. Muskox’s ADHD is making America a worthless commodity!
Some others:
1. GFNCI LLC appears to be a Ken Griffin (Citadel) vehicle.
2. a16z appears in many guises. For instance CNK Fund IV is an a16z fund.
3. Manhattan Venture Partners have part ownership of shady fintech like Klarna and Kraken, the 2nd biggest crypto exchange in the USA that is currently losing to the SEC on various securities fraud related charges
4. Mirae Asset Innovation might be a Korean crypto related fund (under the larger Mirae umbrella)
5. Pershing Square is Bill Ackman's fund. Ackman just tried to use his newfound Twitter clout to raise $25 billion (he failed).
6. IMG US appears to be a sports fund. Could not confirm but suspect ties to sports betting.
7. Olivier Janssens is a bitcoin bro and large Mt. Gox victim.
8. Bandera fund is troubled real estate tycoon Alan Stalcup.
9. Ark Venture is most likely "Wacky" Cathie Wood, she of "bitcoin will hit $3.8 million soon" prediction fame
10. Bamco may be a fintech fund under the Baron umbrella
11. Go Mav is probably agri/food billionaire Ronald Burkle.
12. Adrem X/Y are crypto funds featuring a lot of the biggest crypto players including a16z (again), Ribbit, Tim Draper.
13. Sean Combs is P. Diddy
On the whole it's a lot of vaporware merchants who can make far more money pump and dumping meme stocks and crypto than they could ever make actually developing products coupled with the Saudis etc.
Some of the Chinese names I could not find anything about
Let me correct you:
Manhattan Venture Partners - most definitely not a crypto fund (they’re my client)
Mirae - most definitely not a “crypto fund” (also my client); they are a very large asset management firm, mostly of the traditional variety.
Pershing Square IPO is back on the block (so much for “failure”)
ARK is Cathie Wood - congrats on nailing that one.
Baron is not a “fintech” fund lolol. Please Google Baron Capital for Christ’s sake.
Burkle’s investment firm is called Yucaipa Cos. That, and A-grade Investments (along with Ashton Kutcher).
Finally … “While the list doesn’t include ownership amounts….”
Yes, it doesn’t, and this is of course the most important part, without which this entire piece is speculative sensationalism. I own 50 shares of Tesla. If I want the new Model S to say “FVCK KAMALA HARRIS” on the dashboards, do I have the sway?
You’re not unearthing wrongdoing for the good of the public. You hate Elon and you’re jealous. Like all small men.
If you have Saudi spies who are jailing people based on their Twitter accounts how can Musk claim freedom of speech?
Big Bolshevik pharma is murdering Americans. How about arresting that trash. Lives before money. I know you Bolshevik criminals won't agree.
He is a liar
i copy/pasted this from some tweets so there's some nuance missing, but that said:
- Manhattan Venture Partners def. invests in both fintech (including shady operations like Klarna) and crypto companies (like Kraken, which is both the 2nd biggest american crypto exchange and also most likely a money laundry)
- Mirae does crypto stuff; this is the Mirae Asset Innovation fund. I had at least some reason to think it was crypto related; i could be wrong.
- there was some reason to link Baron and Bamco. I'm not going to look it up again; if i'm wrong i'm wrong. that's why i used the word "seem"
- re: Burkle the OSINT is out there. i'm not doing the homework for you.
as for the rest i'll just let your own words explain to future readers what kind of big man you think you are (and also point out your clients are the kind of people who invest in companies like Kraken who are currently losing badly to the SEC on all kinds of securities charges. speaks volumes about you and your clients).
The fact that you’re calling Klarna a “shady operation” is enough to discredit you. Then there’s MVP as a “crypto/fintech fund” (just because investments are made IN CRYPTO-RELATED COMPANIES (like Kraken, which by the way, has many, many Tier-1 VCs on the cap table) doesn’t make it a “crypto fund.” Same for fintech investments. You’re trying to make something fit that does not fit, and you’re making a fool of yourself in the process.
Mirae does crypto “stuff” like JPMorgan or Fidelity or GS or CS or MS does crypto “stuff.”
Baron is a massive backer of all of Elon’s companies. You’d have known this with even a cursory google search.
The last thing I’ll say, again, is that ownership % are what matter. Your dislike for your own self, channeled into an ostensible dislike for Elon Musk, is obvious, as it always is.
thanks for the corrections but:
klarna is sub-prime predatory "buy now pay later" loans. if you want to die on that hill, well having seen yr profile pic let's say i'm not surprised.
i've dealt with "tier-1 vcs" personally and in fact owe my financial good fortune to them. they were universally horrible people.
and finally i actually have far more nuanced opinions about elon than a lot of people - i am not an "elon truther" as it were - but good on you for assuming a bunch of stuff you have no data about.
And as for Klarna - tell me, which is more “predatory”:
Providing cash strapped low-mid income consumers with rock bottom interest financing for purchases that would otherwise be 30% APR on a credit card?
Or inventing digital lottery tickets out of thin air, getting rich from selling the “Limited Supply of Digital Nothing” to unsophisticated investors who fall for “decentralization is the future” garbage, and then walking away when it crashes to zero and they lose their shirts?
Crypto is trash. Digital currency already exists, it’s called PayPal. The fact that so many losers got rich convincing people there’s a difference, is the scam of the century.
https://x.com/klarnaseb/status/1828387651344306456
crypto is absolutely worse in every way which is why i created this account to warn the world about it. maybe you missed that?
Though w/r/t your clients I will just note that they invested in Klarna AND Kraken AKA "the new FTX" (at least insofar as all the Tether that used to flow through FTX to get access to the US banking system it now flows through Kraken. i tend to assume kraken is probably not just outright embezzling customer money (but then again this is a crypto company so odds are never 0%). so they're making sure they have their fingers in all the most predatory parts of finance. seem like a bunch of stand up fellas.
My profile pic hahaha? It’s a picture of Hong Kong. Wtf does that matter? Dude you’re a joke - you googled around thinking you were hot shit, and came up with air balls. And you didn’t deal with Tier 1 VCs. Who? I know many of them. Which firms? Which GPs at the firms?
Which Tier 1 VC invested in whatever crypto Ponzi scheme you claimed would change the world? Let’s hear it.
this account kind of became a thing after I wrote an essay titled "Cryptocurrency Is A Hideous Monstrosity Made Out Of Computers And Greed That Must Be Destroyed Before It Devours The World, Part I" so i'm not sure why you think i'm pro-crypto. i've never owned nor will i ever own any crypto. as someone with a mathematical / compsci background who worked in the tech and finance industry for a decent amount of time i understand every level of the crypto fraud in a way most people do not.
Oh you’re so unhinged. The perfect friend for that egomaniac Elon Musk. What say you about Fidelity. All is well????
Let me just say Fuck You, you weaselly troll.
They could be bots your reacting too.
Hmm I think you didn’t read his list closely enough, and did not know missed a few details
Fascinating read. Glad you and others are on this.
At some point all of this work independent journalists are doing needs to be translated into policies that protect people from dangerous disinfo and real life violence.
Are there people working on moving the hearts and minds of lawmakers?
yes. the crypto lobby (which includes a lot of the people who own twitter now) is the single biggest source of corporate funding for the 2024 election (easily verified in any major news outlet) and they are determined to promote as much disinfo as they can possibly pump into the overton window.
Ha, I meant in the other direction. The only one who’s on it is Warren.
Dead in the water now anyway, I guess, since it would be vetoed and would never get 2/3 vote.
Don’t know what I was thinking.
Um, the biggest source of disinfo is the government itself.
Followed closely by "mainstream" journalists.
The people fired from Twitter were literally allowing violent rioters to use Twitter as a coordination platform.
They were activists more than they were employees.
Oh really, well it’s grotesque now.
This guy is a serious national security threat. We should seize all assets, nationalizing SpaceX and a starlink, liquidate the rest. Vanishing him to some island north of bath and island on the beach with the sandwich. Ciao Felicia
So, my question about Musk and other people who control so much capital is always the same. He can't live forever. Cryogenically frozen does not count. When he's dead, who gets the space ship and who gets the satellite and who gets the billions of dollars laying around in this or that half functioning project or company or plant that didn't make it? His 10 wives? His 20 kids? Because he has so much, his death would impact us all, so why don't the people have claim to the assets? Nobody likes the word nationalize, but they will when all the food grown here is shipped to other countries because our capitalist brothers sold every inch of farmland to "investors" who don't know how to grow food. I worked for the top, largest, most revered patent law firm in the country with a 25 yr history of never laying anyone off, and they got high on being the IT firm for tech and expanded too quickly at the urging of more junior partners, and then the 'smart' people decided the old school trio of partners weren't making them enough money and they took over and literally blew the firm to bits in 3 yrs and put 1000+ people out of work. Smart people still need boundaries or they become crazy people and waste resources.
His companies run on government contracts, substides, rebates, federal business tax which he pays very little to none. Without them Space X, Tesla, & some of the ISP would cease to function due to lack of funding particularly if he is the only person listed as owner & guarantor of the contracts.
He doesn't care about any of that.
Let’s send him to Mars & see how that goes.
I love the theory. In the real world context, he doesn't justify that expense.
We wouldn't have to send him to Mars, just put him into a capsule and send it away from Earth's gravity well. Who cares what happens after that?
That’s true!
Maybe banish to GITMO
Jared Kushner in the photo too
Why do you guys hate Jews and Muslims? Boomers are racist as fuck
Anyone who lived through the Vietnam War and Civil Rights are not all racists. What you’re describing for are low information individuals in the same age range.
https://youtu.be/KrU6F-S8VMo?si=ixfEUs26v5QnoPyG
Hating an individual Jew or Muslim is quite possible without hating “Jews and Muslims” It’s the behavior of those individuals that gets them on the hate list ..
That is very true for some but not for us!
We are? Dang I did not know that!!! I will have to remember when I see my Jewish neighbors up the street, and my Muslim friends.
Oh wait, if I'm racist against these people I guess I can't be friends with the.? Nope not happening.
So now hating Jared Kushner and Mohamed Bone Saw is racist?
It seems, Musk isn't the richest man in the world but the biggest gold digging whore of the Universe.
Thank you! The journalistic emphasis on politicians rather than the assholes that own them can allow for those assholes to remain hidden and untouched by their crimes, whether legal or not.
Holy freaking cow! This is mind blowing information!
Thank you for digging into the depths of the collusion between these obscenely corrupt wealthy elites. Stay safe friend 💙🇺🇸💙
Follow the Money
Be careful. Watch your back. You are brave, don’t take unnecessary chances. And thank you.
Musk seems more in bed with Saudi Arabia than he is with American money. The problem is that the Saudis and others of that part of the world who have always been opposed to the 'West' are allowed to buy everything up. Until there are guardrails put up, they're gonna keep advancing and financially invading America.
Musk and his techno-fascist crew are both vile and incompetent on a par with Nixon's White House Plumbers. Musk has repeatedly rendered the things he was supposedly 'fixing' inoperable, then scrambled to repair his own damage. He didn't know how Twitter worked and broke it just like he doesn't know how the government works and is breaking it. FSD is Fake Self Driving. Teslas are death traps and he is suing the victims in China and winning because he controls the Tesla data and has the backing of the Chinese Communist Party. He is not an engineer. He is another incompetent con man failing upwards on the public dime. As such he fits perfectly into the Trump kleptocracy.
Yep, crazy that he wins the cases when all the people in China are doing are protesting that the cars are defective.
And Jared Kushner….
If Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, (not to mention a variety of international cryptocurrency companies,) are backing musk, and musk is using Twitter/X for pro-trump political propaganda, then isn’t this just another example of foreign interference in US elections?
Diddy on there. I don’t see anything about this on his Wikipedia.
If that picture doesn’t say it all.😔
Thank you for your work on this. I can’t wait for your book. Quick question though. If musk is knowingly allowing people’s tweets and personal information so that they can be tortured, isn’t he complicit in the eyes of the law?
I would think there is potential liability, but several lawsuits against the company haven't gone anywhere.
I say we send the Muskox to Saudi Arabia. It’s that or send him back to South Africa. Why not freeze his assets and drop all contracts? His cars explode, his space ships blow up, and his “X” is full of Yachzi’s ! We must remain civilized. Muskox’s ADHD is making America a worthless commodity!